yeah, i always make sure to *warn* people about how evil i am as a beta. i do for others what i want them to do for me. and therefore, am picky as hell.

i *hatehatehate* when i work really hard beta'ing, as it is timeconsuming and a pain, and then, not get a thank you or even one stupid thing changed that i told them about.

've always thought of a beta reader as a combination of proofreader, editor, and first-run audience.

i love this definition. you might want to include evil bitca, psycho, or grammer nazi just to make sure people get the message. :)

sounds like we have very similar ideas about what a beta is for. i need someone to tell me if something that seems really clear to me makes sense in the context of the plot, or if ive forgotten something important, like backstory. or verbs.

Beta readers should preferably be familiar with the fandom or fandoms you are working with.

did i not say this? hmm, guess i didnt. i wonder why not..but i shouldve. and i meant to. because if you dont know the fandom, how are you going to know if its OOC or the plot makes no sense in the universe?

thanks for responding! im loving all this well thought out conversation! whee!